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Zayri Cresh
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:50 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

We need to team up some people who like making story ideas. Smile
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Rahde
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

It wasn't just that GE was ignoring RA - it was also that RA, outside their own clique, was totally unknown. Your next door Imp never even heard of RA doing a single thing short of that one "news" post.

That might be in part because the news were controled by the Empire but c'mon, how many times did you really tried to post good IC news? I know that RA did things but it wasn't publicized so you can't blame the lack of interaction between the groups just on GE.

Defection was the only problem since kids would get angry at the slow pace of their promotions and leave to be noticed. Very Happy

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the_mask
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:52 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Here's food for thought, Rahde: it was not exactly easy to do things, when all you could was join ToD or remain on the MG board Rolling Eyes

Since that was the only option presented to us in SWS, I wanted to at least incorporate the declaration of Rebellion at the end of it, as well as some other things.
Another reason for each group staying more or less for themselves was also the way that OOC information was used to gain IC advantages, but I guess you know that as well as I do Razz

Now, let's not look back at how it was, but rather how it should be.
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Rahde
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 4:59 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Of course, scenarios were rather impossible to get and ToD was a disaster if I ever saw one. It was doomed to fail from the beginning. The IC boards were a good idea but of course nobody wanted to be a moderator so that fell apart too.

As for OOC information and such that is fairly annoying too but pretty much inevitable. It happens, it always did. I remember that when I joined there was talk that rules on this would be much more lax then in SWC (because, again, it was impossible to stop it) though you would still have to go through proper channels, like send an IC email and such. Obviously it never happened.

I’m not pointing fingers at anyone – I’m just stating the truth, though I have no idea how you can fix these problems.

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Draco Creed
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:42 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

The only way to fix the demographic is to make being not human inticing (sp?) to someone. Not everyone knows what all the races look like, or can do because they are, who they are. Wookie Claws, Falleen Hormones, cute like Noghri dimples...All these things are advantages people have as allens. Not to mention different cultures and angles to play. But getting people to play them is hard if they want to blend in. Or go to the top of the Imperial ladder, cause last time I checked, there was no Wookie at the top of that ladder. *shrugs* It's all with the players.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 2:49 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Draco all Species are balanced at the moment, this means that the Falleen had to give something up for there Hormones. Humans have bonuses on how many skillpoints they get every level. Now to discourage people taking human I suggest to remove this bonus and hope that somebody notices, cause I doubt it will have a large impact on it.
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Draco Creed
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:01 am Reply with quoteBack to top

Of course everything is mechanically balanced. That's not what I was talking about. It's a flavor balance with a mechanical benifit. The wookie is so much cooler because he looks like a carpet and has claws. The human just smells like B.O. and is a little better at coordinating the beer, pizza, and bong runs.
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Zayri Cresh
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:43 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Rahde, Clique? It wasn't the RA members that had a prolem with a channel that everyone sat in, it was the GE that had the need to have seperate IC and OOC channels so that they didn't get 'annoyed' by outsiders. It wasn't RA command staff that threatened to kill people's characters because they were friends OOC and talked to people OOC.

You might be talking about Bandar/Volker, or whatever his name is, when he lead the RA. But I know for a fact that the RA was anything but a clique. I went far out of my way and dealt with a lot of crap from Seele, Byden, and alex Telic to try and make things happen inter-faction. Scenario requests were ignored, IC News posts sent in to Imperial players respnsible for posting them, ignored those too. The only time I could get anything to happen on the IC News was when I went straight to Charon with anything.

There was nothing else for the RA to do to keep active but to interact amongst itself.


Uliq - true, but there are things that we have to look back on to be sure we don't fall back into old habbits. Smile It's best to learn from the past than let it repeat itself.
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Rahde
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:35 am Reply with quoteBack to top

I’m not sure of what channels are you talking about nor was I ever threatened with execution – especially considering that my “sister” was RA Intel, so clearly not all Imps were cheating bastards that couldn’t separate IC from OOC.

The only channel that all of us were in was #Swsimulation and that was more and more abandoned by the RA people as time wore on.

If you are talking about the #Empire then I really don’t see what your point is. Empire always had a channel separate to converse amongst its own members only, so this isn’t something that was instituted over the night.

Now, if you never could get the news out then you shouldn’t blame that on the Empire but on the admins. They should have found a way to give a fair chance to the Empire and the Rebellion and I hope that this administration will do just that.

As for the scenarios, GE was in the same boat. I know because *I* wanted to start a couple of scenarios and was never allowed due to lack of moderators and such. On one instance I was told that I couldn’t start it because it I had too much of an advantage over the other party so meh.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 2:21 am Reply with quoteBack to top

If you have a scenario you want to run now, I'll give you the resources. Especially since the IC forums are now up... Smile

Send me a summary of the scenario, and it'll get started Smile

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SyberJedi
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Joined: Oct 17, 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 2:15 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I've started a scenario if anyone is interested, over in the Kuat Inner Transfer Zone area. It's called Arrival. It's an open RP to allow character development. Everyone is welcome to jump in.

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Gatin Vos
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:14 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

I'll join in with ya syberjedi, as soon as I get my character sorted out.

I was wondering how you wanted to proceed with it so far. I didn't really get a good feel for it at first read. PM me if you have to.

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Location: know that guy who keeps making calls about being under your porch with an ax?...>THATS ME!!!!!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:55 pm Reply with quoteBack to top

Well, looks like im being me and my crew *squadren*....PARTY AT SYBERS PLACE

Cam: WOOOOOOOO *WHAM*....*gets up* IM OK..wall treyed to kill me..but im o.. *fients, THUD*

Tayla: -_-....ya your REALLY ok captain spandex....

me: ^_^;...um..heh..ignore my evil squadren members....

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